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Thinking about buying this GMT. Buying from an online dealer. I asked to see the movement and open the watch up but apparently it’s a hsssle? Is this an unreasonable ask? Does this watch look ok?
Looks ok to me but I wouldn’t buy from some random person, buy from a trusted dealer who has a reputation to uphold. Check r/rolex community info section to get a list of sellers
When I bought mine I went to Chrono24, found a verified dealer, did some searching and found the dealer online, read their reviews then called them then bought it directly through them. That’s how thorough I was. Not completely but good enough I think.
Probably real, but if they won’t show the movement you should pass.
A hassle to open up? It takes 10 seconds with an oyster case. Big red flag tbh. Any Rolex purchase should be made with the utmost and extreme caution and it’s not an unreasonable thing to ask for.
I kinda disagree though if I’m selling a watch (and I have sold a Rolex before) I don’t have the tools, clean area or desire to risk anything compromising the water seal. If it’s a private seller with good feedback I guess I kind of see where they’re coming from. I’ve never been asked to do it fwiw you’d be entitled to a PayPal dispute or chargeback if it’s fake so you can evaluate for yourself, anyone can fake pictures tbh
This is the only right answer. Nobody in their right mind would risk introducing particles to an expensive movement, especially dust and fine, hard particles that can cause irreversible damage to its parts. The only real red flag I see is the condition of that bezel insert.
Yes, it’s legit. Next also photograph the crown guards. Specially on older models, they’re never straight. They should never overlap the crown.
Yes, it’s legit. Next also photograph the crown guards. Specially on older models, they’re never straight. They should never overlap the crown.
Yes, it’s legit. Next also photograph the crown guards. Specially on older models, they’re never straight. They should never overlap the crown.
Looks good but don’t buy unless doing so through a website with an authenticity guarantee (like Chrono24)
If they find supplying a picture of the movement a hassle then purchasing it from them is equally a hassle.
Giant red flag if someone won’t open the back… Run, Forrest, run!
Would you buy a car if the dealer didn’t let you pop the hood and see the engine?
Me at the dealership, after asking the dealer to pop open the hood and show me the engine:
"yep, that’s an engine. "
EXACTLY!
My bro in law bought a 1973 GMT II Pepsi, and both ADs near us refused (or were not allowed) to open the caseback. I ended up just going to a watchmaker to just open the back to see the movement quality and performance. I don’t think this is unusual, however you must know your seller.
Why would you ever buy a Rolex online?
Because dealers won’t sell to the prolls.
I am not an expert, but it looks like cyclops doesn’t have anti reflective coating?
Is the chapter ring not engraved? Hard to tell from this angle, but if not it’s definitely fake
This model predates the engraved rehaut.
Do you know when engraving started?
Sometime around 2006, but phased in across the line up over several years. So there’s a bunch of watches from 2006-2009 that still won’t have them.
gotcha, thanks for the info.
Rolex didn’t see the change as big enough to warrant a reference number change, so you can have two watches with the same Rolex reference number and one will have an engraved rehaut and the other won’t just due to year of manufacture.
Looks fake to me
it’s impossible to tell nowadays without opening. i wouldn’t buy from an online dealer who doesn’t want to open it
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