Totally agree. I think maybe the high-end, HAQ watches are where Grand Seiko were a decade or so ago… not really appreciated by the average watch fan, outside of Japan. The brand perception of Citizen in Japan is much higher. There is also a relatively recent obsession (illogical to my mind) with automatic movements – with even the cheapest, mass-produced mechanical movement being seen as “better” than an exquisitely engineered and finished quartz movement by many. Not anti automatic in any way, and I think these Tsuyosas look great – but I wouldn’t be adverse to a quartz version.