I see a lot of negative comments on posts where a guy is talking about his skincare routine or giving info on how to do something etc etc.
I see a lot of comments and most of them are calling the guy out as gay. Like wtf? He’s telling something useful to a LOT of people and you are calling him gay for taking care of himself? And since when being called gay is an insult?
Same with some guy talking about any cosmetic product.
Damn. Some people are weird.
I apologize if this seems like a rant here, I have faced a lot of judgmental people too being in the beauty and skincare industry that’s why I hate it when guys are judged for doing what they love.
p.s I am a straight guy with interest in beauty and skincare. I do regular skincare and I work with people who are formulators of cosmetics.
Also off topic but I appreciate this subreddit so much. It gives me so much insights into what people want and helps me in the work.
Sorry that you’ve experienced this. On the internet at least, it seems pretty well accepted for anyone to care about their skin and people seem happy to help. I’ve spoken to men in person about skincare as well without it being weird or judgmental.
I suppose there will be ignorant or jealous people everywhere. Come to think of it, even as a woman I’ve gotten side-eye about “caring too much” about my skin (my skincare is basic af 😂) or even “not doing enough.” I try to remind myself that people being judgmental and rude has more to do with their insecurities than it is with anything I’m doing.
I haven’t noticed that here - but I dont read every post. Pretty sure its against the rules of this subreddit.
People have stated the strangest reasons that someone was gay. I’ve seen one say that if you cry when you see your bride walking down the isle you’re gay. So yeah, I wouldn’t take those people seriously
Everyone should be taking care of their skin, regardless of gender or sexuality
There’s unironically dudes on Twitter who say that it’s gay to wash your butt, or to (as a man) like women too much.
Yeah, it was on twitter where saw that
I grew up around a lot of toxic masculinity. I hate that for a while I bought into that crap too.
I don’t feel men should be judged for caring about skin care/beauty products just as much as women shouldn’t be judged for not being into it.
It’s a preference and should be respected either way.
Because of toxic masculinity. Men will hate anything another man does that isn’t 100% masculine. If it’s something that women are more prone to be interested in, then it’s gay or whatever nonsense.
Because society is stupid and full of arbitrary, needlessly gendered standards.
Skin is skin, skin is human. The fact that society tries to gender skin and make it a feminine thing/emasculating thing is just dumb af.
Men, please take care of your skin. Pamper yourself with some face masks, n serums, n a healthy face wash catered to your skin type, and MOISTURUZE. It feels amazing
If you actually don’t use skincare because of what people think then you need to grow the fuck up honestly.
Toxic masculinity. A lot of ‘men’ have a hatred for anything that can be related to femininity, such as taking care of yourself. It’s insanely stupid because literally everyone needs to take care of themselves, but that’s the reason.
It’s straight up jealousy mate, most people have at least some insecurities or just wish they could generally improve their appearance. And here you are, doing what you can to look after and improve your complexion, meanwhile they are too insecure about their masculinity to do the same. They are tearing down other men to level the playing field because they are too afraid to level up
Self care is about self respect. Those guys probably aren’t getting many dates.
Not at all. I’m constantly on my boyfriend’s ass to wear sunscreen and moisturizer.
It’s about being seen as feminine. If something is determined to be feminine. Men doing it are seen as inferior by people who see feminine as a bad or inferior to masculinity thing.
Do women that act masculine get called the d slur and get mistreated by both men and women because masculinity is considered inferior to femininity?
I’m not an expert on this but I’d assume it’s because as a woman they’re seen as inferior no matter what, so them acting masculine is seen as insulting. That or homophobia.
This is a misconception. There’s women who immensely value femininity, sometimes above men, but they still dislike men acting in manners they perceive to be for women. And vice versa. Feminine behaviour for women is generally considered more respectable, not inferior.
I mean that’s why they’d be disliked by men.
Feminine anything is seen as inferior by men, and even some women, despite them seeing femininity as better for women. It’s very hypocritical.
I’d say women adhere to what you said less than men, I don’t personally know any women that would complain if men started taking care of their skin and being more emotionally open. I won’t argue that they don’t do it at all. They do. And it’s still misogyny/sexism when they do.
If he doesn’t have Patrick Bateman’s skin routine I don’t want him…
JK
I’ve personally noticed that calling things gay whenever men attempt any form of self care comes from other men, but ofc there are also women out there who have a toxic perception of masculinity. Either way I think it’s stupid and I think men should also invest time in self care in forms of skin care, having a balanced diet or anything else that keeps them healthy and makes them feel good about themselves
When I first met my boyfriend, he told me he had a skincare routine and I honestly found it so attractive!! We’ve been together for six years now and he still takes great care of his skin. Obviously I know this is anecdotal and doesn’t really do anything to dispel stereotypes, but it’s a reminder that not everyone would care or have a bad opinion about such a thing.
I think overall that perception is shifting, slowly. The reality is that skincare is hygiene. Men aren’t judged as much for having bad skin, and the joke is that men have better skin with no effort because it’s a little thicker, so many don’t think it matters. I’m sorry you’re feeling criticized for it. Taking care of your skin is normal.